+HCU Millennium Strainer: 26 July 1999 "Here it is!"
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A delayed strainer
The "Millennium" strainer was plagued by a series of problems, the main ones being the long disappearence of +ORC and +Aesculapius and the syn-attacks against my site.
As usual among us, you will be able to follow, if you are interested, the various phases that brought us to the Millennium Strainer (which is NOW ready, but see also "+Aesculapius intents" below). You are all allowed to criticize, as Olorin has done, anything that we did/do/will ever do :-)


[The Millennium strainer 26 July 1999]
[+Fravia's "placeholder" May 1999]
[+Greythorne's suggestions May 1999]
[Olorin critics the placeholder July 1999]
[Fravia's and Steinowitz's "placeholder June 1999]
[ENTRANCE TO THE 1999 +HCU COURSES July 1999]
[VoxQuietis critics the "secret pages" concept July 1999]


THE MILLENNIUM STRAINER
26 July 1999



Dear readers, I'm proud to introduce the Millennium strainer, for the +HCU 2000 courses. I know that we are late: due to the problems that are listed elsewhere we have had a three-months delay in the presentation of the strainer this year. I would tehrefore propose that all your answers for admission should be presented either to +Aesculapius, to +ORC, to +Greythorne, or to me BEFORE THE 15 December 1999, so that you will have four months and two weeks to solve the strainer and we will have some time for the evaluation of all results. We hope that +ORC will send his contribute very soon, but we will anyway publish the fourth challenge of this strainer before the end of August.

millen1.htm: Presentation of the Millennium strainer by +Aesculapius
aescu_mi.zip: This is the program "aescul.exe": a little demonstration of how we can cripple any debugger even if it runs as a device driver like SoftICE (R), or dwells in the silicon world as an application-level one, like the rest (except TRW).

It is not necessary to underline the importance of this strainer and of these studies. You know it already very well. I know in particular that protectors awaited impatiently a challenge like the first and third ones of the Millennium Strainer: "Anti-debugging & Decompiling Techniques". As everything (all valid solutions) will as usual be presented in december, both those that took part to the strainer and those that could not solve it will benefit from it. Which is good: infact we are interested in the evolution of even more good anti-decompiling techniques. So, what can I say more: enjoy!


Fravia's first "placeholder", May 1999



Fellow reversers,
I published the "tn3270" strainer-idea, that you'll find below on my main messageboard on the last day of April 1999, since the +HCU has always published a strainer in April and notwithstanding the disarray for the "three caretakers" caused by the syn-attacks against my site, +gthorne's new daughter and the disappearence of +Aesculapius, I wanted to "keep up one of the few reversers' traditions we have".
Things have changed for the better at the moment: my new fortress is holding well against all sort of attacks, and http://www.fravia.org will be redirected there very soon. +Aesculapius reappeared with lessons and tasks (restricted for +HCUkers) and a new +HCU Linux page is developing nice thank to +Rezident. Moreover, consider the following as just one of the "possible" strainers.
As you all know the intent of the +HCU is NOT to form a 'cracker' group. Our little "+" don't mean at all that we are "better" than anyone else, in fact there are excellent reversers in many groups that could teach us quite a lot, if they cared to. Yet we strive for knowledge and we spread reversing knowledge like few others do, following old +ORC's tradition and steps. Our aim is simply to put together, somewhere on the web, protectors, coders, reversers and crackers of a specific kind: people able not only to learn but also to teach all the many techniques that can be useful in this more and more electronic life of ours. Secret codes with secret meanings abound more and more, as we very well know, and not only inside software. It is time to reverse at least some of them, it is time to explain, and it is always time to learn. Building on the shoulders of each other we will go forward, reversing more and more, learning and explaining, teaching and understanding, towards what I hope will be a better world, or at least a world we will understand better.
fravia+ May 1999

+Greythorne, May 1999



regarding the strainer idea in itself

i noticed it was mentioned that people working together made not a good strainer

what needs to be noted is that my suggestion was that people submit strainers - and then after they are all in, then graded and members allowed in, THEN AND ONLY THEN are the hcuers to collaborate and make a combined project out of it

now this of course assumes that people are working on the idea and not deciding that this is not a good strainer

and no mammon_ i wasnt stealing your idea ;) i found it in a macro virus actually as well - it was a dropper that echoes to debug.com just like you do (but i agree 100% that to steal it is not doing ones own work ;) *poke poke!*

what i want to see are people who want to get into areas they have not before truly mastered, in order so that the corporate world does not run the lives of us all

this is why the hcu exists in the first place hacking and cracking are both in the agenda from day 1 (just read some of +orc's propaganda.. quite humourous and a bit much at times but getting past that, the point was made) --- reversing big brother requires more than 'jnz/jz good code' but getting around the machines and software remotely as well as the ones on your desks

personally, i would love to see some ideas as well - i am open to the idea of someone coming up with a project idea, planing it and attacking it (for those of you who have been to grad school you may be familiar with the idea)

this means that it has to be ratified by the hcu of course

the reason i suggest this is that sometimes there are great ideas that are missed, and also there are topics that as you may guess from reading the other messages on this topic - may not be interesting to the people posting for whatever reason

instant access was a rough one - i definately agree, and i for one spent months working on it when i had the chance -- part of which because it wasnt exactly the clearest english for that matter but then technical documents are never extremely clear anyhow

in another life i might have been a linguist rather than a computer type, but then thats why i write well, and tend to not get the greatest 'grades' on my technical drafts -- to much clearer to read than the professorial types like (if it's readable it doesnt belong in a computer science classroom...)

but anyway, i would love to see some ideas, and i would also love to see what comes of the original strainer idea posted above

much of the reason hcu has been slow going lately is communication - finally egroups has fixed their size problem and we can now use it for hcu mail lists (some lists being the primary method we have been using until these last few months when servers changed and well, now things are automated in such a way that time can again be on our side)

it takes work to make an organization live, and though that term applies loosely to hcu - which is made up of lone wolf types with a desire to learn, members do need to think of challeneges

if i were to make the most of a suggestion to those of you who are new and wish to get better at cracking, and in preparation for hcu classes, GET FAMILIAR WITH WIN32 ASM - if you can write programs in it, you have a serious step up on cracking win32 apps. So much has happened lately to make this easy, that it is important to learn it.

well, before i go into anything else, and before i have any more coffee, i am done for now 8^)

please post any responses on fravia's main messageboard, i would love to hear your ideas - or get on the hcuml and post there, the list is only newly running again and it takes usually a few weeks to get back on track

+Gthorne

Olorin's critics


Quite a negative judgment of fravia's and Steinowitz proposal :-(
As you will read below, +Aesculapius is preparing the "real" Millennium strainer, so we will see what we do with this proposal of ours. I still think, Olorin notwithstanding :-) that meddling with the TN3270 protocol is quite an interesting endeavour... raeders will judge!


Disclaimer - This is only opinion, although it contains references useful to anyone attempting the strainer.

Firstly, what has been set is nothing more than an over elaborate implementation of back door programs such as Back Orifice, NetBus and Unix rootkits.

The remote execution section totally relies on the ability beforehand to either trick a user into running a trojanned program, or having access to the computer beforehand.

What is REserver.exe and REclient.exe other than BOserver.exe and BOclient.exe with a tn3270 added on for no particular reason. "Use the TN3270 protocol for this and you'll be able to use this as a full shell account! And you don't need passwords to verify your access to the server" - Oh wow. Unlimited access without passwords. That sounds just like the rootkits that any decent security site carries, eg packetstorm, before antionline shut them down. Luckily for antionline, they got a copy of all the files first, at www.anticode.com. You can find rootkits and telnet servers to sit on a port there.

Using previously configured associations between a web browser, windows, and the command line represents little more than an overly complicated set of interfaces, better suited to a GUI or simply executing the client.

Rewriting a tn3270 client, an interface developed for IBM mainframes from scratch has bugger all to do with reverse engineering and nothing to do with good programming practice. Save yourselves the trouble, and checkout http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/ Peaks/7814/ for a windows client with complete source, and http://www.hgsys.demon.co.uk/linux.htm for a linux client and source.

For further information about tn3270, checkout http://www.tn3270.com/ or http://www.ci sco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/dsgngde/tn3270/tndg_c2a.htm

Hmmm, to make things tricky, lets throw in a little regular expression and pattern matching. Yawn.

The three sections on different interfaces, javascript, perl and c are nonsensical. If a person had access to to a remote workstation just once, why would you install a tn3270 server? On a non-standard port? Just install the personalized version of BO2K. Virtually each server is unique, running on a different port with a different protocol, and responding to different types of encryption and pass-phrases. Nothing is defaulted.

The last section - The only part to have any real reversing content, taking telnet.exe and adding in the ability to parse the commandline so that not only the host and port are recognized, but an optional extra parameter that represents the command to be executed. Hmmmm telnet to a telnet server, and execute a command. BUT *and this is the tricky bit* put that command on the command line. Oh, and do it purely in assembly while working with a pre-built executable. That'll be some patch.

Since when did the HCU become a bunch of extremely inefficient hackers, writing ridiculously over complex back doors and trojans?


mailto:olorin(at)netlink(dot)com(dot)au

+HCU Millennium Strainer ~ Part 1


Remotely Executing on the Web


Steinowitz (and fravia+), May 1999



Introduction

Since fravia+ is very busy with rebuking the attacks on fravia.org, he asked me to write down how the Millennium Strainer should be. Both fravia+ and I think that Reverse Engineering on the web is the future, therefore, this strainer is about Remotely Executing. While cracking software appz is done by the dozens of crackgroups which exist at the moment, elite reverse engineers like +HCUkers should move on to where the future is: the Internet.

Because of this, the +HCU strainer should not only test your reverse engineering skills. An elite reverse engineer needs knowledge of coding, reverse engineering and the Internet. This strainer requires you to know quite a lot about all three. Let's proceed with the assignment!

Remotely Executing

The main objective of this strainer is to make it possible to run any executables you choose on a target machine where you have had access. Let me explain to you how this should work.

A complete solution should at least cover solutions for both Windows 95/98 systems and UNIX systems. Read 'Portability' for more info on this.

Web-interfaces

After coding all this and testing it well, it's obvious that this isn't as easy-to-use as it should be. What we need are a couple of decent interfaces which make it really easy for users to use REclient. Encoding commands like the examples I gave is easy to do, but I don't want to be forced to look up the hexadecimal ASCII codes for all kinds of special characters. Let's describe a couple of interfaces you should make it you want to do it perfect. I would waste time if I would explain to you why these interfaces should be web-interfaces. :-)

Interface 1 - JavaScript

If you don't know how to make webpages with standard HTML tags: learn it right now! Don't you dare to use M$ FrontPage (or any other WYSIWYG HTML editor) for this assignment, because that would be a serious insult. :-)
Notepad or pico/gvim is good enough for our purposes!

Alright, write a webpage where a user could enter 1) hostname/IP of the target machine and 2) the executable which REserver should start. When this user clicks the button, a JavaScript function should encode hostname/IP and command to execute in the URL format I explained earlier: tn3270://target_machine/encoded_command. Change the browser's location to this new URL and your REclient.exe will do what it should do... (If you re-associated the TN3270 protocol with it!)

Interface 2 - Perl

Write a Perl CGI script which does exactly the same as the JavaScript page described above. Don't forget that it should be a CGI script! (Thus: it shouldn't be executed as a program from your command prompt. If you don't have installed Perl on your local workstation, you could install your script on a webserver where you have CGI permissions. Don't forget that you'll still need REclient.exe installed on your local machine!)

Note If you're a real +HCUker, you also write Perl scripts which do exactly the same as REserver.exe and REclient.exe! Believe me, that it's easy if you finished your C version and know something about the differences between C and Perl!

Interface 3 - C (again)

Last, but not least, one more web-interface. As a matter of fact, this one isn't just an interface. This one should be both web-interface and REclient in one. I think you already understand what I mean with this. No? Ok, read on and you'll understand!

I started this essay writing that the Internet will become more and more important for all elite reverse engineers who want to keep up with the best. Therefore, for those who don't already know all about this, it's getting time to learn everything about CGI programming. Remember: you can't reverse engineer if you can't engineer! Why did you learn coding in assembly? Indeed, you couldn't reverse engineer without it! That's why this strainer also requires you to know quite a bit about the Internet and CGI, a.k.a. Common Gateway Interface. And since most servers are UNIX-based platforms, it's also getting time for all those Bill Gates-people to shutdown Windows, restart with some UNIX platform and see how long a system can be stable without restarting at all!

Remotely executing whatever you want sounds good, but remotely executing whatever you want by ordering a remotely hosted client to arrange this sounds even better! I really hope you can follow my deep thoughts. If you don't: get a glass with your favourite cocktail, sit back and relax, enjoy your drink and think about it. Believe me: it'll work! :-)

For those who didn't already understand: write a CGI program in C which provides your with a web-interface. When you enter data in the web-interface and submit it, the CGI program should behave as it were REclient.exe. All output should be correctly formatted HTML code. This CGI program should be installed on a webserver where you have CGI permissions. To prevent unauthorised users from using this interface, you should implement a password protection. Write another CGI program in C which the system administrator (you) can use to add/remove users to the user list. Passwords should always be stored in an encrypted format.

An example.
When I'm allowed to login on a UNIX system called target.com only once, I can upload the source of REserver, compile the program and run it. At that point, I have unlimited access.
I installed the REinterface CGI program I wrote in C on my ISP's server, www.myISP.com. I can now access this by surfing to http://www.myISP.com/~switz/REinterface. A nice interface appears on my screen. I enter the name of the target machine, target.com. I also enter the command I want to run on the target machine: '/bin/cat /etc/passwd'. Furthermore, I enter my login name and password. After I did all that, I click the button. A couple of moments later, the output appears on my screen: the contents of the file /etc/passwd! (And, of course, if the system admin of target.com configured his system well, I will only see 'No access to /etc/passwd' or an almost empty (shadowed) password file, but our REinterface and REserver work fine and that's the main point!)

Please note: This REinterface sure is a nice piece of web engineering, but you cannot provide any input to the executable after it started. For example, you can't provide any commands to '/bin/bash' or 'command.com' after you started it! A large benefit of this interface is that you don't need to install REclient.exe on your local machine: you can use this interface from wherever you are, provided that you have access to the Internet.

Reversing M$ Window$ Telnet

When you are able to accomplish everything above, you have proved that you have knowledge of both coding and the Internet. But you're not ready yet, no way! A Millennium Strainer isn't something which you solve in a couple of days! Take your time...

Some time ago, I wrote that telnet.exe is the program normally associated with the TN3270 protocol. Well, how about using that?? Notepad.exe has been the target of many reverse engineers: I have seen several Notepads with added functionality. I think that the standard M$ Window$ 95/98 Telnet executable is at least as interesting: a full reverse might be a very good exercise. However, that's not the objective of this strainer. Combine the section 'Remotely Executing' with what I just wrote and you'll understand what you're to do next.

When you arrive at this point, you already have written REclient.exe and you have written several web-interfaces. But there's one more client we want: use your reverse engineering skills to create a client out of telnet which you can use in combination with the same REserver as you used in all cases before. Yes, you're totally right when you conclude that you only have to code one server, but quite some interfaces/clients. :-)

Dive deep into telnet.exe. All code needed to communicate with a target machine is already available, but where is the code you need to modify? Micro$oft helped you a great deal by leaving so much wasted space in the executable: there's quite some room to add your own code. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it would be necessary to add more.

Here are some ideas about what you could try to achieve with telnet.exe.

The more you do, the better! Just do what you think you are able to do. The other parts of the Strainer are pretty straight-forward. You should use your imagination (and Zen skills!) with this part: think of what you think would be a nice change to telnet.exe, as long as it is related to the rest of the Strainer!

Essay(s)

Since it's almost getting time for you to start with this assignment, I'll mention a couple ideas of things you could do to achieve a better final result. When you send in your results of this assignment, only sending (commented!) source codes, binaries and scripts isn't enough. Why did you do what you did? And how did you do it? Answer those questions in one or more essays about the development of your results. And since we may assume that you don't develop your final 'product' out of nothing, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to include some pre-final versions of your programs. Think about it!

Portability

I already mentioned that you should at least make it possible to compile REserver and REclient (and REinterface!) under both UNIX and Windows. To make your programs that portable, you need to use ANSI C functions as much as possible. There are some functions, however, which you'll need, but are not portable. Since we don't want multiple versions of source and header files for Windows and UNIX, you'll have to think of something else. The solution is easy: use some preprocessor directives and a Windows/UNIX flag....

Since there are always differences between C compilers, it could happen that you were able to compile your executables under both Windows and UNIX, but anyone else trying to do the same (with another compiler) could have troubles compiling. To avoid this, don't forget to mention which compilers and operating systems you used. Include all version numbers!

Last words

I already wrote this before, but I can't repeat it often enough: the more you do, the better. Furthermore, you should work slow and basic. Don't try to do everything at once, because you won't succeed if you do it that way. Completing an assignment like this requires knowledge, patience and a little Zen. But I think it's even more important to show that you are willing to learn and that you're capable to do so.

A journey of a thousand miles is started by taking the first step.
-- Chines proverb

Civilisation advances by extending the number of important operations we can perform without thinking about them.
-- A.N. Whitehead

After these wise words, there's not much left to say. You should solve and send in the strainer before mid-September, as usual. If you think you're ready before September, I really think you haven't done enough, even if you did everything I mentioned in this essay. There's so much else you could do to make it even better! (Think of a good name for your project!) Use the time you have!

I'm really anxious to see the results: I can hardly wait till fravia publishes the results on his website. (That will take some time though.) In the mean time, I'll see if I have enough time to complete this assignment myself...

Good luck,

+fravia and Steinowitz


Mail +fravia at fravia_(at)yahoo(dot)com if you have any questions concerning this +HCU Remote Execution Millennium Strainer.


Master +Aesculapius intents
16 July 1999



fravia+ wrote:

> By all means, +Aescu.

> The surrogate of a strainer I have posted on my site

> was just intended as a "place-holder".

>


I'm glad; you'll have the strainer in one week (maybe less than that) because I need to polish some minor aspects of it. The targets will be: Challenge 1: CodeSafe v. 3.1, Challenge 2: CuteFTP v. 3.0.2, Challenge 3: Restorator 2.5 (possibly, I'm still thinking on this one), Challenge 4: I'm thinking in leaving this space empty with a note to +ORC in case he wants to contribute, if he doesn't answer I'll include a fourth target (Cdrwin 3.7d).

Challenge 1 will require knowledge in PE header layout, Structured Exception Handling, Debug API Set and SoftICE detection tricks.

Challenge 2: Undefeated until now. Server authenticated. It will require knowledge on WSA, CRC, and internet protocols.

Challenge 3: Tough target and a great tool.

Challenge 4: CDRWIN 3.7d (if +ORC does not send any contribution or any of +you doesn't want to propose an alternative target). Cdrwin key system has been defeated by only two crackers in the world after 4 years of attempts (I was the first one, the other guy is retired from cracking).

So the strainer is tough, but not that tough and it will explore almost every attribute a cracker worth of entering the +HCU should have. Internet use will be explored too.

>

> If you want to start, beside sending me the new strainer

> (we'll postpone the admission frist  accordingly), 

> you could send me your first lesson for the '99 levy: I'll

> open a password protected part of my fortress so that +Hcukers

> only (or almost, but those that will anyway find their way

> there will be also pretty good AFAICJ :-) will thus partecipate

> and give their precious feed-back. If you prefer an emaillist 

> approach just tell me, I'm sure that +Zero and +Malattia 

> would gladly take care of that.

Whatever, the page with password and participation of some important personalities (not necessarily all of them belonging to the +HCU) is a good idea.
I'll send you my first lesson in about two days (it is ready, but I need to polish the preface text).

>

> Happy to have you back on board.

> Lotta things to do.

> Let's sail and reverse along!

>

> Later, +brother

> fravia+

>

nice to see you too...

cya
+Aesculapius.

20 JULY 1999
Here goto99co.htm the entrance to the +HCU 1999 courses, by +Aesculapius and other older ones :-)


VoxQuietis' critics (July 1999)

An intersting point: secrecy as cause of decline. I partly agree, with VoxQuietis, actually. I think I don't need to demonstarte that I don't like at all the idea of keeping any sort of knowledge "inside a box". Unfortunately we have until now found no other way to speed up work on some 'delicate' matters without giving at the same time ammunitions for the lamest sort of hacking & cracking to all the "script lamerkids" out there. Actually the "strainer" idea itself - take a look at this year strainer, for instance - is IMO a good way to go public and keep restrict AT THE SAME TIME.


Dear reversing colleagues,

There is a long thread on accessing the "secret" HCU pages,
which proves a vast interest in the topic, irrespective of
the fact that some people, which are insiders of course,
are quite reluctant having such a topic discussed here.

Nevertheless the interest is here, as the previous discussion
shows, and, in my opinion, it is a interesting one, since
quite a couple of things are treated, that all the visitors
of this messageboard are interested in:

The HCU pages are supposed to contain information on S/W
reverse engineering. They are hidden. So the basic insticts
of every reverser around will be trigged by the mere presence
of these pages.

On the other hand one should ask oneself, what is the actual
matter of both the HCU pages, this year's strainer, and a
possible hacking of the HCU pages? And that's were reflection
comes in, which here usually is called "reality cracking".

I think we all could agree that "cracking" or "S/W reverse
engineering" more or less is targeting on the inner working
of your own computer. Maybe there is a little bit of warez
stuff, too. But in the long run, people are studying at
Fravia's, or at HCU, since they are compelled by the
undercover actions of S/W, e.g. by M$ mm256.dat or word
unique user ID. And of course there is the fascination of
exploring the way someones computer works.

It should be clearly stated, that this interest is very much
different from the classical "hacker", who usually gets is
satisfaction from sniffing inside remote computers. Thus the
hacker is more interested in transmission protocols than in
recovering S/W flow of operation.

And that's the point, where this year's strainer comes in:
Fravia's challenge is much more hacking oriented than all
the strainers were in the past. To put it bluntly, the 1999
strainer will attract a person interested in hacking more
than ever. Thus it should be obvious, that hacking the
HCU pages directly, i.e. without solving the strainer,
becomes an attractive solution.

But still the question is not answered, what would be the
price of hacking the HCU pages, i.e. what kind of information
will be located within the essays/courses. Well, its easy
to speculate on that, but who does really know ...

The principle of sharing knowlege ultimately would demand
to publish all the essential informations. And it would
ask for a quick publication, because even to withhold
information temporarily finally would damage the ethic
constitution of this community.

So it is evident, that secret information in the long run
would give the root of declination of the HCU. Of course
actually there are no signs that things allready started
to move to this direction. But whenever there are things
kept away from the public's eyes, there is an inherent
danger of something I'd like to call the "Freimaurer-syndrome".
Remember that the Freimaurer long time ago tried to advance
democracy (or at least some democratic issues, as free
speech) within secrecy. We all know, where this approach
ended. And we all know, that it due to the internal construction
needed to end like it did.

Best regards
VoxQuietis


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